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Mi mini conversion

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 5:41 pm
by Teslas fag packet
well following on from our chat in the noob section, i thought i would at least go look at a microcar's final drive. much to the bemusement of the garage owner i might add. theres me under one of his cars with a tape measure in hand.

and i think i could fit in the diff and motor in fount of the other whilst still having the hight under the bonnet for stuff or more cells

nice one Paul

still i have to get a selvaged one yet, anybody... no ... dust..... anybody... no ... dust

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:58 pm
by qdos
I don't think I'd use a microcar final drive in a Mini. Microcars (or quadricycles to use the DVLA's term) are very lightweight and have a very low power engine usually no more than 20horse power. The 'gearboxes' are not up to much more than 40hp max. They make ideal EV conversions but I'd not recommend their components in a heavier 'regular' car

If you want to have any details about the drive I'm happy to go and measure mine up for you though.

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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:06 pm
by EVguru
They make ideal EV conversions but I'd not recommend their components in a heavier 'regular' car


It's not a regular car, it's a Mini! :lol:

Providing you're sensible about the peak torque, I think you should be fine. There's a fair margin in the gearboxes and the millage of an EV is relativly low helping offset any increased wear.

The CVT puts quite a load on the input shaft. If the drive from the motor to the gearbox had it's own bearing arangement then this load could be removed and give the gearbox an easier life.

Fitting motorcycle engines into kit cars subjects the transmissions to loads far in excess of those they were expected to cope with, but there don't seem to be many reports of failures.

What transmission is the Mega Truck using, after all that's designed to haul a payload?

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:23 pm
by qdos
EVguru wrote:What transmission is the Mega Truck using, after all that's designed to haul a payload?


This is true......

I would guess it's the same transmission but the Mega Truck is only either an 8hp diesel or Electric so I don't think they really expect it to be driven in the same way a car is expected to.

How much does a Mini weigh?

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 7:53 am
by EVguru
How much does a Mini weigh?


The weight of a Mini is approx 600Kg. The weight of the engine and 'sump with gears in' must be around 100Kg.

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:37 am
by Teslas fag packet
ear's still ringing from gig last night, first of all Qdos thanks for the offer of help with the dimensions, is that a photo of your car as it looks to be ICE powered, nice gob though.

also it is very perceptive of you about the peak torque if it can be broken i like as not will :wink:

in the past i found these chaps there not too far from me on the east coast, in one of the beak down lists the diff is listed as £400 its an LSD BTW

should i get mi hand in mi pocket....

the picture on the fount is there electric reverse kit a stater motor genius

http://www.zcars.org.uk/mini/conversion.htm

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:57 am
by qdos
Some SERIOUS petrol head stuff at ZCars.

What exactly are you aiming to achieve with the Mini? as this is high performance competition stuff. Definitely a different league entirely to quadricycles.

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 11:10 am
by Teslas fag packet
yeah there a bit like that in east yorks, Norse descendants don't you know.

certainly for the now I'm just trying to get the thing moving, non of that Colin mcrae stuff

is just that its a diff on a stick that i can use, i guess over time i have come up with many way's to do this and i still don't have the car

it's time to finish it I'm and open cast mine of determination.

and i find my self reaching for my wallet, it good to have people to mull thing over with

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 12:57 pm
by qdos
Tesla's fag packet wrote:certainly for the now I'm just trying to get the thing moving, non of that Colin mcrae stuff


How about some Clarkson stuff then ? You could always stick some rockets in the boot and point it down a ski ramp! ;) That'd get it moving!

There are one or two petrol heads in the forum I've had a Lotus and I've currently got a Ginetta G27 plus one of our members has one of if not the fastest ever MG Maestro ever to set rubber on Tarmac! Check out this thread for petrol head stuff

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:15 pm
by EVguru