SMMT electric car guide

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SMMT electric car guide

Postby timpootle » Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:16 pm

The Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders has published a new version of its popular Electric Car Guide to help motorists make more informed decisions when purchasing an electric vehicle. Presented in an easy to understand Q&A-style format, the free publication addresses some of the common queries relating to electric vehicles including information about batteries, charging, vehicle performance, on-the-road costs, government incentives and safety.


http://www.smmt.co.uk/2011/06/smmt-publ ... car-guide/

Possibly not much we didn't know, but interesting nonetheless.
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Re: SMMT electric car guide

Postby ex925 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:32 pm

Hi, Tim, thanks for making us aware of this report
Some queries......

"Rapid charge.....at dedicated charge bays. This will charge the average pure-electric car in around 30 minutes" - Really?

Pure-EV ‘tank to wheel’ average = 0g CO2 /km
Pure-EV ‘well to tank’ average = 77g CO2 /km12
Pure-EV ‘well to wheel’ average = 77g CO2 /km
ICE ‘tank to wheel’ average = 132.3g CO2 /km13
ICE ‘well to tank’ average = 14.7g to 29.0g CO2 /km14
ICE ‘well to wheel’ average = 147.0g to 161.3g CO2 /km NOT PERSUADED, IS THIS A "SPIN"?

Having said that, a word comes to mind
LANGAGE!
No, NOT a mis-spelling, a local to me diesel power-station!
STINKS!!
Maybe electricity-generation IS un-reasonably pollutive?


"Over 300 charge points already exist in the UK and government is providing seed funding up to £30 million under the Plugged-In Places scheme to ensure public charging infrastructure is available in a number of UK locations. London, Milton Keynes, Midlands, Greater Manchester, East of England, the North East, Scotland and Northern Ireland will collectively install................"
What about the rest of us?

"If you do not have access to dedicated parking, you will need to establish what sort of public charging infrastructure is available in your area. You can do this by contacting your local authority."
I did. 3 of them. 2 denied their duty. 1 sent a link to the EV-Network

"Charging EVs using public infrastructure should not involve trailing wires. It is not recommended that people without an off-street parking facility (for example, garage or driveway) charge at home, so home charging should not involve trailing wires"
Wonderful opportunity for anti-EV legislation, or non-statutory barrier syndrome?

"TOTAL COST - (EV, then i.c., - Ed)
£17,288
£16,009
Over three years
TOTAL COST
£5,763
£5,336
Per year
TOTAL COST
38.4p
35.6p
Pence per mile"
Hmmmmmmmm - comments, please!

"This means, in practice, that if overall energy demand increases as a result of electric vehicles (or for any other reason) then the increase in demand must be met with electricity from renewable or low carbon generation sources.
The metrics for determining vehicle emissions have always been tailpipe emissions, so-called ‘tank-to-wheel’. EVs have no emissions at the point of use when powered solely by battery power.
The reference to 80g CO2/km is based on a ‘well-to-wheel’ analysis, which includes the CO2 emissions during electricity generation for the UK grid mix and was quoted in the King report63. The government uses this figure as the long term marginal average electricity figure, which means it takes future grid decarbonisation into account."
Oh, yes?? - and, in plain English ??
"To make a correct comparison with emissions from all cars, you have to use the ‘well-to-wheel’ figure which includes the CO2 emissions during production of petrol/diesel. The consensus of experts is that with EVs achieving 60% penetration of the new car market, these reserves will last well over a thousand years!"
Incredible, to me, (literally)

What do the rest of us think?
Ed


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