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Discharged Lithium cells

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:24 pm
by Grumpy-b
WHat are the issues of recommissioning lithium (not sure which version) cells that have dropped so far the BMS has ceased to function. The discharge has been because of standing for a year + rather than being run down under load.

Grumpy-b

Re: Discharged Lithium cells

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:07 pm
by retepsnikrep
You can't revive them asfaik. Time for the skip.

Re: Discharged Lithium cells

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:54 am
by Jeremy
It depends very much how low they've gone and what type of cells they are. There are plenty of examples on ES where some types of LiFePO4 cells have been resurrected from near zero volts successfully. I have a pack of Headway cells that accidentally got discharged down to around 1V per cell and they came back to life and have been working at full capacity for several months now. Others have found the same with A123 cells.

The same isn't true for LiCoO2 cells though, once these die they are dead for ever, it seems. It may also be that some other types of LiFePO4 cells don't recover - there's some evidence that pouch cells are poor at recovering from over discharge.

It's worth trying though. I'd aim to charge each cell individually and monitor them to see how well they pick up. You may get a nice surprise and get back a fully functioning pack, or at least one with enough capacity to be usable.

Jeremy

Re: Discharged Lithium cells

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:47 am
by ChrisB
Must admit I've generally found they wont come back once they have dipped to low.

One of the annouying things with them, I've got some old Nicad camcorder batteries that are decades old now, yet a couple of cycles and they are nearly as good as new, yet my lipoly in my stills camera went flat because I didnt use it for about 8-9mths and now wont even hold a charge for 5mins :(

ChrisB