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Toshiba SCiB cells due out in March

Postby ChrisBarron » Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:47 pm

Apologies if someone esle reported on this.

A couple of years ago Toshiba released a statement about a high capacity cell, which looked in the photo like a tagged PP3 battery.

It seems they are now all set to sell these into non-CE applications from March, into hybrids and so on.

5,000+ recharge cycles, and a 90% charge in under 5 mins.

The cells are beign sold as individual 2.4V 4.2Ah cells or, better still, as a packs of ten to make 24V 4.2Ah packs, measuring 300mmX100mmX45mm, with built in BMS, weighing 2kg

I doubt they will go retail in the near future but there is always hope !


Gizmodo article http://tinyurl.com/yw7q47

Chris

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Postby MalcolmB » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:35 pm

Hi Chris

A 90% charge in 5 minutes sounds great, but the problem is finding a charger or mains supply that can deliver that rate for a decent-sized pack.

The energy density isn't brilliant even if it does include a BMS: 24V and 4.2Ah at a weight of 2 kilos is about 50 Wh/kg. That compares with around 80 Wh/kg for LiFePO4 (A123, LifeBatt and some Thundersky) and even higher figures for lithium polymer (Kokam).

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Re: Toshiba SCiB cells due out in March

Postby qdos » Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:28 pm

ChrisBarron wrote:Apologies if someone esle reported on this.

A couple of years ago Toshiba released a statement about a high capacity cell, which looked in the photo like a tagged PP3 battery.

It seems they are now all set to sell these into non-CE applications from March, into hybrids and so on.

5,000+ recharge cycles, and a 90% charge in under 5 mins.

The cells are beign sold as individual 2.4V 4.2Ah cells or, better still, as a packs of ten to make 24V 4.2Ah packs, measuring 300mmX100mmX45mm, with built in BMS, weighing 2kg

I doubt they will go retail in the near future but there is always hope !


Gizmodo article http://tinyurl.com/yw7q47

Chris


Yes it was already reported over on the main site (Click to see here ) There's another posting about another new battery which looks destined for hybrids on the home page now too. You see there's always little gems of news on the main site :wink: you can bookmark the home page or subscribe to the RSS feed and then you're always up to date on news thanks to the BVS website contributors 8)

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Postby ChrisBarron » Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:35 pm

MalcolmB wrote:Hi Chris

A 90% charge in 5 minutes sounds great, but the problem is finding a charger or mains supply that can deliver that rate for a decent-sized pack.

The energy density isn't brilliant even if it does include a BMS: 24V and 4.2Ah at a weight of 2 kilos is about 50 Wh/kg. That compares with around 80 Wh/kg for LiFePO4 (A123, LifeBatt and some Thundersky) and even higher figures for lithium polymer (Kokam).



Yeah I know about those, but was taken by the lifetime claims more than anything. Maybe as much as ten times the life of lithium means I think it could find a few applications where size isn't the largest of issues.

The one I'm really looking forward to is the new Stanford Lithium cell based on nanotech fibres, I might be a fair bit greyer when they come out though, as previously reported on the main page http://tinyurl.com/2slvyq
I just hope they aren't in one fo those inter-university development one-upmanship battles, it would be a shame if that were the case but it looks at first glance to be a respactable claim

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Schwinn pedal cycle & sciB

Postby Jon Fray » Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:19 pm

http://www.schwinnelectricbikes.com/tai ... ttery_pack

I see that Schwinn are now using the Toshiba Super Charge (SCiB) battery on their e-bike. Interesting to see how long (or do I mean how quick?) these things take from announcement to the market now.


http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/2007_12/pr1101.htm


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